"Pixel" (Improbcat)
01/24/2015 at 22:21 • Filed to: None
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"Pixel" (Improbcat)
01/24/2015 at 22:21 • Filed to: None | 0
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I'm obsessing about !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , if I understand the website correctly, I could have it shipped to NYC for under $2000 with insurance. But I'm not sure if I'm missing something vitally important.
In a perfect world I'd like a manual transmission Pao, I'm wondering if it is possible to get this unit and a half-cut of !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! sent in one container(as the second one is both rusty and not yet legal for import to the US).
jkm7680
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:26 |
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The first Pao is fine, But elaborate more about the other one?
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Pixel
> jkm7680
01/24/2015 at 22:28 |
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Fixed the link.
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jkm7680
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:32 |
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Unless the transmission comes out, it's illegal.
Dsscats
> jkm7680
01/24/2015 at 22:36 |
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Wut?
Kevin Rhodes
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:36 |
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It will be 25 years old in 4 months, then it is legal to come into the US. I have seen one in MA cooking along I-95. So cute, but IIRC from reviews back in the day, an utter snoozefest to drive.
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jkm7680
> Dsscats
01/24/2015 at 22:39 |
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What I mean is if the transmission is pulled and shipped separately.
And the rest of the car is eaten by Godzilla or something.
415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:43 |
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Yeah I like them, I go to Japan at least once a year and I always want to get one for my commuter car. I may do it, I am in SF so its a bit easier, lots of shipping goes into Oakland.
ranwhenparked
> jkm7680
01/24/2015 at 22:45 |
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It's a 1989 model, easily over 25 years old, so totally legal in the US now, no disassembly required.
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Pixel
> ranwhenparked
01/24/2015 at 22:46 |
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The second one I want for the manual setup is a '90, with a date of manufacture of 5/1990.
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ranwhenparked
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:49 |
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You need to file the appropriate paperwork with Customs & Border Protection, but for classic cars, it's a pretty straightforward process as long as everything's in order.
You need to file forms 3520-1 and HS-7 with CBP, and it's really to your advantage to work with a registered vehicle importing company, since they know the process and can smooth/expedite things.
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jkm7680
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:49 |
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If you bring it after that date then it'll work.
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ranwhenparked
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 22:55 |
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In that case, you have to wait until May at the earliest. CBP goes by actual date of manufacture, as opposed to model years, so it has to hit its 25th birthday.
Unless you can just find the necessary manual transmission components and import them as parts. The Pao shared its platform with the Micra, which was sold all over the place.
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ranwhenparked
> jkm7680
01/24/2015 at 23:02 |
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Yeah, that has to be it.
Pull what you need for the manual conversion and junk the rest. You can bring in spare parts, but the Feds are wise to the whole "take the engine out and put it in the trunk" scam. If it looks like it could easily become a complete car again without too much work, they are liable to call it a complete car and seize it.
Blame it on some folks who tried to get clever with MGFs and Mexican Beetles in the '90s.
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Pixel
> ranwhenparked
01/24/2015 at 23:05 |
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Any suggestions on how to locate one?
Bird
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 23:09 |
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First off, full disclosure, I'm an dealer in Kentucky importing JDM cars.
Now, about the Pao. That's pretty high mileage, and at that price I wouldn't expect a great car. Tradecarreview isn't actually the seller as well. You would be dealing directly with the dealer. It's a site members can pay to list cars on. Do some googling and you can find some reviews. It could go great...or it might not...it all depends on the individual dealer that has it.
Beforward mainly deals in cars going to Africa. I don't know if they offer halfcut services. Google them as well, you'll find some info about them.
Now this is the part where I try to sell you a car....
We could source something from the auctions for you. Pao's go at auction for anywhere from a few hundred dollars for an R grade car to a few thousand for a grade 4. Grades go from R (rebuilt or accident usually), to Grade 6 (basically new car). This Pao was a grade 4, 5 speed base model with 115k km:
It sold for about $2500. We charge a flat fee of $5000 for vehicles with a less than $10k purchase price is Japan. We want to try to simplify that part of the process. For that fee you get a car legally imported, titled and sold by a licensed Kentucky dealer. That fee includes all purchase, import, and international shipping fees. If picked up at our shop, that car would have cost $7500, plus applicable state taxes depending upon you're location, just as if you were buying a car from any other dealer. We can also ship the vehicle to you from our shop. We don't send it directly from the port to you, it needs to come to us first to be inspected and registered.
We're just getting started, but we've been around Oppo for a while. If you want to see any of the stuff we've posted about starting the business, we tagged everything Imported From Japan
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ranwhenparked
> Pixel
01/24/2015 at 23:10 |
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The NHTSA has a PDF of registered importers on their website. If the car is over 25 years old, I don't believe you legally need to use one, but it is probably a good idea, given the potential for complications.
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Bird
> ranwhenparked
01/24/2015 at 23:14 |
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You don't need a Registered Importer for vehicles over 25 years old. In fact they probably won't want to help you. They do vehicles less than 25 years old. Usually very expensive ones...
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Pixel
> Bird
01/24/2015 at 23:38 |
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Sorry but $2000 vs $7500 makes it a no-go for me. Especially as I'd then need to add sales tax & the cost to get it from KY to RI.
$2-3K for a fun toy 3rd car is something I can rationalize, $7500 is more than I paid for my DD 7 years ago when it was a 3 year old car.
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Bird
> Pixel
01/25/2015 at 00:04 |
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You will have other stateside expenses. You will need a customs broker, and you'll be paying port fees, custom bond. Lots of things that add up quick.
I was looking at it more from what you seemed to be suggesting. Buying an automatic and a manual and swapping it. Buying both of those cars, plus half cut fees, shipping on two cars...You would end up very close to that $7500 if not over it, and the car wouldn't be as good. Even buying just the first car, I would say it will be tough to get it here for $3000.
Not trying to give you the hard sell. There's a lot of ways to import a car. Do some research and it is doable yourself. Just wanted to show you what it would be with us. You could also hire an exporter to source a car for you and handle the US side stuff yourself. Don't underestimate that part of it though.
I also strongly suggest buying the best car you can. The cheaper car will cost you more in the end. If that dealer on Tradecarreview can afford to sell that car for $1k, I would imagine it went to auction as an R grade and sold for a few hundred dollars.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Pixel
01/25/2015 at 00:20 |
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every time I see a PAO i think if this video
Also I just realized I've been pronouncing it wrong. I always thought it was Pay-Oh, but they clearly call it a POW.
gergey - Wishes vette was Datsun
> Pixel
01/25/2015 at 01:46 |
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there was this guy called Doug. Used to have some red car... doesn't wear pants, drives with flip flops, Oreo fan, maybe you've heard of him? He's pretty obscure though.
cluelessk
> Bird
01/25/2015 at 14:22 |
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$5000!!!
You guys are ripping off your customers. Don't know why anyone would pay that....
Can be done way way cheaper in Canada. This reputable company that people I know have used only charge $1000 CDN.
http://b-pro.ca/jdm-canada-imp…
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cluelessk
> Pixel
01/25/2015 at 14:23 |
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They're ripping off there customers. Can be imported into Canada through a broker in your name for $1000.
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Bird
> cluelessk
01/25/2015 at 15:27 |
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Sorry, but the US is not Canada. If you import a car through Canada you'll end up paying more. Look in to what others in the US are charging for the same thing. You'll see people saying things like $3-$8k. B-pro doesn't include shipping or any of the other import costs in their fee. B-pro doesn't license and title the vehicle either. There is still money to be spent after their fee. That's not the case with us.
We're not ripping anyone off. Our pricing is as up front and clear as possible. Ripping someone off would be hiding fees and or inflating the purchase price in Japan. With us you pay actual purchase price plus $5k. It's a no surprise method of importing. With us you're buying from a US dealer, not a foreign company. If something goes wrong, you would have legal recourse against us. Not so with a foreign company.
We offer a service with an up front price. If you try to go it alone, you'll understand why our service has value. Yes, we are making a profit, but I believe we offer a valuable service for that cost.
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cluelessk
> Bird
01/25/2015 at 17:44 |
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Still. Car is shipped to Canada under the new owners name. Shipping costs around $2000 so even after that it's $2000 less even with our weak dollar.
We buy twin turbo '99 Legacy fresh of the boat in Vancouver for under $5K and the company must still be turning a profit.
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Bird
> cluelessk
01/25/2015 at 17:55 |
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So their fee, plus export fee, port fee, Japanese inland shipping, international shipping fee, customs brokerage, title, inspection, registration, etc etc.
We include everything. You're not including all the costs in your calculation. And again this is the US not Canada. The customs process here is much different.
Of course you can do it yourself for cheaper. Fixing your own car is cheaper than taking it to a dealer. What's your time worth? If it's worth nothing, than yes, that's a better deal. As I said before, we offer a service for a fee. It's up to the buyer if that is worth it.
Don't claim we're ripping people off based on bad math.